Pentim: We are not partnering no. Their ideals are different from ours, we have grown apart - if we ever were together - we have grown apart in the way that we react to the dimensional shifts, we changed our thought processes on negativity and positivity. We've learned to cope with survival in a much different way and we've learned to become friendly with the galaxy, instead of fearful of the galaxy. So we have developed in a totally different way than they have. They have seemed to continue to reproduce their negativities on every generation and no one and nothing has seemed to burst forth out of that, except for the survival and the paranoid instincts that have been taught to them. Now I am sure that there were some that tried to break away from that but it's so strongly ingrained that they were probably not successful, or I can see that they have become part of another Grey species in which there are several. There are some Grey species that are much more advanced than the Zetas.
Max: Okay I have to clarify; so it looks like... Ah, I think I remember that the initial hybridization program of abductions on Earth about 50 to 20 years ago were done by... a lot of that was done by Yahyel and Zetas, right? And it's like your involvement was close to half of that abduction?
Pentim: Yes, we did do a lot of that, that's true, it was for scientific, ah... but we were not the cruel ones. Zetas did the cruel things with their abductions and [while we did] more psychological exploration, and we understood the physiology of humans so we wanted to do more psychological portfolios.
Max: Were you working together and what are they like? Because there were reports of tall Greys and short Greys being in the same room, were you the tall Greys?
Pentim: We were not in the same room with them, no. We are actually the medium size... (Laugh)... I am a more medium size. But there are shorter Greys and taller Greys of course. The shorter Greys are not Yahyel, necessarily, there is a shorter portion of our population that is Yahyel but I do not think that they would be seen with the Zetas.
Max: So basically when I interviewed one of the abductees they said that short Zetas, shorter Greys, are Zetas and they are biological drones and are not very smart, and the tall ones are very smart and wise and actually very humane. So the tall ones were humane and the short ones were very clumsy.
Pentim: There are some other Gray species that are humane, other than the Yahyel.
Max: Aha, so it wasn't the Yahyel in the same room with the...?
Pentim: No it was not, not with the Zetas. The Zetas would try to get rid of us, as they might want to get rid of that other species in time because they very paranoid. Unless they have some kind of contract with them - that they are working together, but I cannot see benevolent species working together with them.
Max: I've run out of time, so I have to let Jim go. Thank you very much for your answers, I hope to continue that discussion but I think we covered very essential, initial questions; we needed to have them answered.
Pentim: Oh very well, it was very nice to speak with you again Max; I haven't spoken to you for a while.
Max: Yeah nice to speak with you as well, I wish we could speak more; the life is so dense with events here.
Pentim: Yes, I see that. Have a wonderful day.